Crimea? You have a death wish bud? Ottomans? You sure you legit? You can not gainy any power in the meantine, since, where can you really expand into? Venice? Likely not. If you make it to 1450, good luck against Venice! Good luck against Mamlukeann allies if they beaat Ottomans too! Good luck restoring Greece even, Ottomans just expand asap to Candar and the other Turkish ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at start. Getting an alliance with Austria is difficult as is already. It's very difficult for Hungary and Poland to not rival eachother (happened to me just about every Poland game so far). Originally posted by nedyahlz:You cant even blockade the straits anymore! You cant get austria or poland as allies! Paradox has legitmatley made it IMPOSSIBLE to play byzantium!
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